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Re: Top 3 Bots in YOUR State

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Originally Posted by EricH View Post
See who they were against.
Unfortunately, my knowledge of 1625 this year is limited to just Lake Superior, but anyway, here are my musings as to why they lost in the Quarterfinals there. At the least I will try to be unbiased, but I guess I can't entirely do so seeing as how we kinda won the set.

The Alliances

The Blue Alliance: 3747, 3883, and 93
vs.
The Red Alliance: 1625, 2175, and 2957

The Alliance Breakdown:

The Red Alliance Captain was 1625. They were ranked 5th or 6th if I remember correctly in our scouting system. Fast and nimble, they were, by far, the best scoring platform on the field for the match. They were joined by 2175 and 2957, both of which I can't even remember what they did for the match or what their capabilities were... Wow my memory sucks.

The Blue Alliance Captain was us (93). We got to be an alliance captain almost through a fluke (I say almost because I know our drive team tried to get coopertition balances set up for almost every match, even if we couldn't do anything else, including balancing). So, by virtue of being unable to score, we ended up on defense. However, we got fantastic picks to score for us. They were our alliance partners, 3883 and 3747. They were 8th and 11th on our list for top performing robots if I remember correctly. They had relatively similar scoring abilities and could both balance with relative ease.

Match Breakdown:

*Match 1: Red scored no points in autonomous mode while Blue scored 12. The match then took off as any other match might under normal circumstances. The goal: score as many points as possible and then finish with a double balance. Both sides were able to double balance leaving the score at 42-32. A loss for the Red Alliance. If you're going, "What the heck just happened?" don't worry, there is an explanation. It is that during teleoperated mode, we, 93 were able to get in the way of the Red alliance by camping out at the fender and just being a general nuisance. The key to this is that through scouting, we had noticed that 1625 and 2175, when they would attempt to score, would most often go for the fender shots. This severely limited the Red Alliance, allowing 3747 and 3883 to work their magic through scoring.

*Match 2: Red took the lead during autonomous 10-0. Then both teams went on to attempt scoring. Blue caught up to make the score 10-12 and then successfully double balanced while Red failed, which set the final score at 10-32 with Blue winning. I would like to note that we would have won even if Red Alliance had balanced their double like they had attempted. Again, as before, we (93) played defense such that 1625 with their 6-wheel tank got pushed around by our mecanum drive, effectively ending the possibility of scoring at the fender.

Key Points:

We scouted and formed a strategy based on that. This was the basis of being able to complete with an effective alliance given the odds otherwise since it was the 3rd seed against the 6th seed. It also allowed the identification of a key weakness on the Red alliance. The fact that none of their robots were effective from the key which pushed them to the fender where defense can be extremely effective.

Second, the Blue alliance could not have won either of the matches without every team helping out. Without 3747 and 3883, the score would have been 0 on the blue alliance. Without 93, we couldn't have stopped the Red Alliance from being able to score effectively.

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So I hope that is a reasonable explanation as to what happened there. Feel free to ask questions.
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