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Re: IRI Rule Changes - 2012

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Originally Posted by lemiant View Post
How exactly did all you long bots who feel screwed plan on playing in elims?
"all you long bots" - the robot class thing that is setting up here is kinda interesting. Longs. Wides. Etc. But I digress.

Let's separate the removal of the co-op bridge into a different discussion and focus solely on Rule Change #3. That is my primary concern with these changes.

In the elims, a Long alliance captain has the right to CHOOSE an alliance that is triple-compatible with them. 4334 was chosen by two Longs on Archimedes for a singular, extremely well executed purpose. Of course, a longbot has to earn an alliance captain spot before being granted this privilege. I believe that has just become much, much harder for Longs to accomplish at IRI, given how quickly devastating a triple can be to a match outcome, and given the fact that Wide bots have a statistical advantage in being paired with two other triple compatible bots. Some wides can triple with 2 longs. Many can do 1 long/1 wide, and of course, most all can triple with 2 wides - the last case being almost trivially easy to accomplish relative to the other configurations. Longs cannot realistically triple with 2 longs, and given that 47%-ish of the robots at the event are going to be longs, you are going to see quite a few long/long/long alliances during qualifying. No Long alliance captain in their right mind would assemble such a group in the elims (would they?). They will have no choice during qualifying.

No one can choose who we will be paired with in qualifying. Making a previously elimination-only gameplay element legal in qualifying - one that is so critically dependent on the physical configurations of the three randomly-paired partners - almost guarantees that more of those in the Long class are going to experience pain relative to the Wides in the rankings. THAT is the key issue, in my mind. We all want to be alliance captains, right? We all wish to have some modicum of control over our elimination destiny, right?

If a new rule makes it more likely that a Wide with similar basket scoring ability to a Long is going to advance higher than the Long in the standings, I cannot see how anyone can view that as a legitimately fair situation.
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