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Re: [FRC Blog] Einstein Report Released

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Originally Posted by 1075guy View Post
I will say that for the FCA attacks on 1114/2056/4334 to be intentional, someone would have had to have figured out that the FCA vulnerability existed, and based on the way the report talks of it, it seems that this only existed from Wk4->Championship, and only on robots with rev A hardware. Curious, indeed.
I have a feeling that while there was intentional FCA going on, there's a large potential for unintentional FCA as well, which they didn't mention whether or not had been tested. Many teams configure their practice network at the shop with the same SSIDs that the field uses, and if they used a different security key, any phones/tablets/laptops that happened to be active during the games and had been connected to the network at home could have been attempting connections in the background. I actually caught our team's programming laptop trying this once during week 2.

Also, I was surprised to notice this year that SSID broadcast was enabled on the field APs, making the team networks show up on every laptop in range. I don't remember it being that way last year.

On a somewhat related note, what would people think about having a CSA check over code as part of inspection to counter the kind of user code issues that were seen in the report. It wouldn't have to be a pass/fail kind of thing, but having a more well-trained pair of eyes to provide suggestions to the team and something for field staff to go on when a robot misbehaves would probably go a long way

Anyways, excellent report by FIRST, and I think bandwidth caps are a great idea. I hope they don't take the partial involvement of the BeagleBone as a reason to ban non-KOP electronics though. They really open up new possibilities for teams.

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Originally Posted by stevend1994 View Post
Also of interest was that it seems like 118's issue was also code and that no team on Einstein was using Labview. For reference, do 1717 or 469(had comm issues in their semis) use labview?
I don't know about those two, but after those semis 68 had unexplained comms issues in the finals, and they do use labview
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