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Originally Posted by Chris is me

They've been regional winners and Championship first round picks for three years running. They're elite in my book.

(Though it wasn't as successful, I still love their 2009 robot)

Are they extremely good, yes. I wouldnt consider them elite until they win and be consistent early picks at champs for 5 years. There are alot of teams that are regional winners and early picks for trends of 2-3 years at a time; but it is a select few who can do it after the "changing of the guard" after sending off those 4 year students.

I do see 1986 joining the class of elite teams in the next year or so because of the uptrend of quality of robots and quality of robot productivity at competitions.