[Physicguy]

I honestly think that for mid level teams it mostly boils down to either have a good shooter or climbing for 30 pts. I find it hard to actually accomplish both... I not saying it won't happen... It will happen but for a small percentage of team. My team is a mid level team that is why we are focused on building a robot that climbs for 30 pts. If we could add a frisbee dumper that would awesome but it is not our goal.