[Donut]

Originally Posted by dodar

Was 469 "bad" for Breakaway?

I think that answer is going to vary with the individual. That goes for all "chokehold" or "game breaking" robots.

From the perspective of an average team facing off against a robot like that, I'd say yes. It's one thing to get steam rolled by an elite team because they just execute so much better than you do; it's quite another to know before the match the starts that your robot is physically incapable of beating an opponent regardless of execution. I think this is more applicable to a bot like 71 in 2002 where the match was over in the first 5 seconds if you were slower than them, at least 469 had to have a partner start scoring for them before they were unstoppable.

If very accurate (75%+) full court shooters are seen at regionals you have the same scenario as 2002 as a possibility. For an average alliance that cannot extend above 60" the match is over if they can't stop their opponent from reaching a feeder station in the first 10 seconds. For an elite alliance you have the potential for a very entertaining match as they now try to be more accurate than the full court shooter in the 3 vs 2 game they get to play. You could see a 150 to 180 match score if that happens.