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Re: What did we learn from week 2 of the 2013 season?

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Originally Posted by Alpha Beta View Post
Can someone provide more information on this situation (or direct me to it if it's already been posted)?

Was there something specific about the New York venue that contributed to this issue?

Is there a chance teams will show up at another regional this year or Champs and not be allowed to run a camera?

Seems unprecedented that such a well supported sensor for FIRST would suddenly be disallowed carte blanche.
What happened was NYC was having extreme communication issues all throughout Thursday, and FTA pegged it as many teams not having the updated of the driver station that was recommended, not mandatory. So late Thursday they had an inspector go around and just make sure everyone then had that update installed before they were allowed to go on for qualifications. They did that.

Then on Friday, the field seemed alright. Here and there were some communication issues which they quickly solved. Great job FTA.

Then once Eliminations came on Saturday afternoon, for the first qualification match everything was buggy. Throughout the match both the red and blue alliance kept gaining and losing comm unexpectedly. That match had to get replayed. After the replay FTA went to the 24 teams participating in eliminations and turned off everyone's cameras and their dashboards. Leaving many teams who've had been practicing for almost 3 days straight now with their cameras and dashboards, now without them in eliminations. I know from the alliance my team was in - 1635 was unable to shoot without their camera, and 375 could shoot from the pyramid, but was unable to accomplish their full court shots without the camera. I also have a friend from 3419, which won an award on Friday night for their vision tracking program, now unable to use it at all in their elimination matches. I'm sure these weren't the only teams effected in eliminations, as I've seen some other NYC competitors on here upset with that change.

All FTA told us was that some team with a camera was using too much bandwith, but they could not peg exactly which team it was and they decided to just shut down the cameras and dashboards for all participating teams. I understand FTA for coming to this, since during one match in eliminations we had a 30 minute delay due to field issues, but I feel if the cameras were still allowed - it would've changed the outcome of NYC because many many of those robots out on the field had cameras that helped them greatly.

I hope this doesn't effect any other regionals or Champs at all.
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