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Originally Posted by The Lucas
Can someone explain how the tiebreaker was wrong, that caused the QF match replay after the SF started? They explained it in English on the webcast (thanks), but it was brief. This is an interesting situation, that I don't think I have seen before.
Was the tiebreaker wrong due to the automated scoring of autonomous discs being incorrect? If it was wrong couldn't the tiebreaker point just be reversed after the manual count was checked?
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Lucas, I was there, heard the explanation in both english and hebrew, and understood nothing.
I was really confused about the way they broke the tie, I had no idea that was the way it was supposed to be done, but I looked it up and it is, section 5.4.4 of the manual:
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5.4.4 Elimination Scoring
In the Elimination MATCHES, Teams do not earn Qualification Points; they earn a Win, Loss or Tie. Within each series of the Elimination MATCH bracket, the first ALLIANCE to win two MATCHES will advance.
In the case where the MATCH score of each ALLIANCE is equal, the tie is broken by awarding an extra point to the ALLIANCE with (in the following order):
highest number of FOUL points awarded (i.e. the ALLIANCE that played the cleaner MATCH)
if FOUL points are equal, highest number of AUTO GOAL points
if AUTO GOAL points are equal, highest number of CLIMB points
If the criteria above are equal, the MATCH is a Tie and will be replayed if need
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At first they said the match was a tie, and they awarded a single point to 1574's alliance since they had a higher auton score.
Now I'm thinking the mistake could have been either:
- They forgot about checking for foul points before auton points
- They miscounted the number of auton points
The israeli announcer is sportscaster, but he's not very fluent with the FRC rules (perhaps to be expected) so he didn't really convey any information about the nature of the mistake, and certainly didn't say if it was either of the above options.
hope that helps add some info...
-Leav
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