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Re: Climbing and dumping not winning?

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery View Post
You know what confuses me about this thread? The timing. Didn't we just have our first climb+dump winner during week 3? 1806 was the #1 selection at winner at GKC (ahead of a team with a 7-disc autonomous).
That would seem confusing, except that example is 1 Event out of 32 (although admittedly I haven't checked on the winners of all the events to see if that is the only one... but even if it's 2/32..).

I think a lot of us (myself included), thought that of the non-do-everything bots, the climber/dumper would be THE rockstar of the competitions. Now as people have pointed out, consistency seems to be what is failing the climbers and even the climb/dumpers. We've seen so few robots that climb for 30 every match. We've seen even fewer robots that can climb and dump even 75% of their matches (maybe only a couple?). Climbing is HARD. Much much harder than reliable shooting.

And I think that is what makes this analysis tough. We just don't have a lot of good examples of a consistent version of this type of robot yet.

However, I am wondering as teams improve their robots across the season, and as teams learn strategies to defend shooters, if this won't start changing. It is really really hard to defend a climber/dumper. Its much much easier to defend a shooter.

I'm curious to see if the average eliminations shooting scores actually increase or decrease as this season goes on. I wish I had time to run some of the numbers, as I bet there will be some really interesting trends. TBA is already showing the elims scores flattening, but we don't know if that includes improved auto, defended shooting, or improved climbing or what. I wonder what the next few weeks will show.
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