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Re: Climbing and dumping not winning?

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Originally Posted by eedoga View Post
The thing is...I wonder if a climber/dumper takes away from the scoring capability of the other two bots on its aliance. So for example if you have a full court shooter, and a floor loading cleanup bot would having a 50 point climber/dumper be an acceptable trade off to a third shooter/defence bot? So would it be better to have gone with a defence bot than a climber/shooter? In which case it depends on what you are up against and what you are alied with.
If it takes the whole match to climb / can't drive, and especially if it only makes it to 30 points, it's not worth it. The faster you get the climb, and the more defense you can play before climbing, the better.

There's a reason 3467 was the first pure climber selected at BAE, despite only going to 30. They played great defense for the first minute of the match, then climbed to 30 pretty consistently starting Friday afternoon. In my mind that is a lot more valuable than a 50 point dumper that does nothing else.

I think the best case scenario for teams that built 50 point dumpers would be to go for that strategy in most of their qual matches, but be prepared to switch to defense + quick hang in elims if they have to, or if they don't have the 20 point portion of their game consistent enough.
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