[robonerd]

Forgive me if I step out of bounds here, but I think it's extremely rude to judge a team so hastily based on a few members and one conversation. You do not know the team or how they operate.

Mentors are incredibly important to FIRST because they can teach and inspire the students. If they "let the students do everything", chances are the students aren't going to learn and understand what they could have done better. I'm not saying any form of mentoring style is better than another, because everything changes on a case to case basis. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't judge a team for a mentor's work. You have no way of knowing how much effort, or how little, student members put in.