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Re: Rules G-30 and G-18-1

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Originally Posted by MrJohnston View Post
We are a tall full-court shooter. Our favorite activity is shooting 3's from the protected loading zone. A 60" robot can block us by stationing itself very close to us - inches away. If we push it back from us so as to clear a shot, are we called for the foul or is the other robot?
I'm not a referee, but I'll state my opinion anyway. The defender should get called for the 3 point penalty by default. The referee should only call a technical for G18 if it's obvious that the full court shooter is trying to abuse the G30 penalty. In this case, I don't think it would be obvious which of the following the full court shooter is trying to do:
A) Push the defender off of their position to get a clear shot
B) Get out of the feeder station to switch strategies
C) Force a G30 penalty

Choices A and B are legal strategies that certainly would not warrant a G18 penalty. From the perspective of the referee, there's significant uncertainty as to the shooter team's strategy, and I think one has to go out on a limb somewhat to call the G18 technical.

Let's say the shooting robot has no discs in its hopper, and the defensive robot is not moving. The shooting robot repeatedly drives forward and back to "tap" the defending robot a bunch of times in a row. That seems like a good time to call a G18.

If I'm the defensive driver, I don't want to park so close to the shooter that I get a penalty if they drive three inches forward. The defensive robot driver should be aware of the risk of sitting there, and park a few inches farther away if that risk is unacceptable.