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Re: Climbing and dumping not winning?
The Bayou Regional this past weekend as a great example of the main point of this thread. 2992 and 1421 were the best 50 point climb and dumpers at the regional. Both made elims with 1421 coming one match away from winning it all in the finals. What made them so successful wasn't the fact that they could score 50 but it was because they forced their opponents to focus on them to try to stop them, thus causing them to slow their scoring down.
2992 was picked by the #5 seed captain and they took the #4 alliance to 3 matches. They forced them to focus on their ability to get 50 points which took away from #4 being able to just focus on scoring. They ended up losing due to 233 awesome defense against them in the 3rd match.
1421 was picked by the #2 captain and they undefeated to the finals due to 155's shooting and 1421 being able to climb and dump 50 with little resistance. In the finals, 1421 had some resistance but was able to still climb and dump and beat the powerhouse scoring #1 seed of 118 and 3753. In the second match, #1 launched an all our defense assault on 1421 slowing them down from their process. With 30 secs left, they were able to complete, in my opinion, the most impressive climb and dump this season (still looking for video of that match) and lost only by 2 points. In the third and final match, #1 decided to let 1421 go through their process, didn't play any defense on them at all and 118 and 3753 just decided to out shoot the climb and dump. 1421 got the climb but missed the dumb but it didn't matter because 118 and 3753 put up at least 127 disc points.
So after watching the elims, it proved that climbing and dumping might get you to the finals, but if the opposing alliance is a very good shooting alliance, you're going to need to scout and have a really good strategy in order to win. 1421 was an awesome bot and had a great climb and dump mechanism but they needed more scoring either from 155 or with 155 and/or someone to slow 118 down to have a better chance of winning.
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