[Hoover]

From what I've gleaned robot tipping cannot be done as a strategy, so then the alternative is that it can be done as a knucklehead. But then this would be not in the spirit. So has anyone seen a case in 2013 when a robot was tipped by another and no technical foul was called? Stories?

Side note. I've noticed that the technical fouls seem to be 30 points, is this a modification from 20 in the glossary of the original publication?

I noted in one of my earlier posts that in another match a robot hit another robot, but since the second robot was top heavy... but it wasn't only that. The four wheels were almost to the frame perimeter. This plus the top heaviness and the robot slammed right over, boom. This happened right in front of us (on the stands) and I wasn't the only one who raised one brow. So to all of those who say you can't build a robot that will purposely tip, it can be done at least passively. There currently is no inspection test for some kind of minimum bumper hit.

OZ 341, I am in 225's district but I wasn't at Chestnut. I didn't hear any such calls at our last event but it is hard to hear on the floor (maybe the loud music is good shield!). This is my first year as mentor, driver couch, semi-finals where defense is escalated. I am trying to learn as much as I can in a short time span. What I can tell you is that I think the latter is becoming what might be described as 'hard ball', a real sport. There is a lot of pressure and I think thick skin in needed. It might be that once the audience sees all this bumping around that they get fired up. I doubt all of them know the rules, but would they have been asking their favored team to take a 30 point hit just because they can possibly counter it in offensive play?

How does this jive with the idea of 5.4.4 (about ties) "the ALLIANCE that played the cleaner MATCH", implying that fouling is, how should I say it politely, not clean? In basketball, is fouling part of the dark side of that game, or just strategy?