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Re: Best way to estimate the best defense bot

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Originally Posted by dellagd View Post
I've tried the 1-5 scale of None, Ineffective, ect. but that got shot down by the scouts when we tried that. I'll try for it again. Hopefully working in some pit scouting into that will work out nicely.

Good to know DPR is no good.

Any other Ideas?
We do ours with a similar scale, 0 is a average robot, (-) points are if they perform poorly or are a detriment to their team and (+) points are if they perform above average. I would highly recommend a system like that or the 1-5 system you tried before. Tell the scouts to come up with a better system if they don't like it, otherwise just use that.

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Originally Posted by EricH View Post
You guys are almost all overlooking one thing (I've seen one mention so far). And this one thing could lose you the event.
Our "driver ability" category is supposed to cover this, if they are consistently causing penalties we will score them very poorly in that aspect. We've found that there tends to be a fairly close correlation between apparent driver skill level and average penalties incurred.

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Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia View Post
themccannman & MrJohnston, I'm the lead mentor and drive team coach for a defense-oriented team. If you have time, I'd be interested in your opinions on some match footage to tell me what you think about our team! I agree that OPR and DPR aren't helpful or accurate, and I've also used a more qualitative system for making defense strategy decisions.

Out of curiosity, why do you think the best defensive robots don't play defense during quals?
I would be happy too look at some of your matches. The reason why most good defensive bots don't play defense in quals is because they are usually some of the better offensive bots too. This years game tends allow good offensive teams to play effective defense very easily, all they need is a fast drive train and a good driver, which good offensive teams almost always have. I feel like our team demonstrated how easily the switch can be made from offense to defense at CVR when we spent all of eliminations playing counter-defense despite being one of the highest scoring teams there. We had a couple matches at other times (including the Sacramento regional) where we had to play defense and our driver was able to almost completely shut down the other teams offense with nothing but a drive train (they scored 0 tele-op points in several matches).
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