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Originally Posted by Michael Blake
Jeff... "misleading" is a negatively-loaded word that I HAVE NOT used.
Representations are made in writing and verbally at the Champs ceremony, WHERE'S the substantial evidence to support those representations?
IF you listen to the video carefully, NOBODY say's Dean's List will only "improve your chances of attending", there's NO DISCLAIMERS or warnings... here's a direct Dean Kamen quote right after M.I.T. and Yale folks finished speaking:
"As I said, the colleges get-it, they want to get YOU (pointing to the entire D/L audience)..."
That's _powerful_ stuff for a 17 year old and his parents to hear for the first time. The credibility factor was _VERY_ high, now not so much...
My OP premise is that my experience is that this award MAY BE overstated and over-sold as it relates to getting into M.I.T. and Yale. Though, data (results) might prove me wrong...
--Michael
BTW... you guys have an AWESOME robot this year... hoping to see you on Einstein!! ;-)
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What part of Dean's quote isn't credible? Have we seen a Dean's List Finalist or winner get rejected from every college? Or have we seen some that maybe haven't gotten into their top choice, but have still gotten into good schools?
Again, you can't base any assessment of credibility against a single instance of results, especially when the admissions process is so complex. Winning Deal's list is a single feather in your cap, and you need many of them to get into a good school.
When I was applying to colleges, I had a great resume. Awesome SAT and ACT scores, practically a 4.0 (a single B one year in high school), a National Merit Finalist, Eagle Scout, leadership in the marching band, chess club, and math club, etc. It was a great resume. But I didn't get into my top school. I got in every where else though, just not my top school. Just because I didn't get into my top school doesn't mean there was something wrong. After all, aren't schools supposed to be interested in Eagle Scouts? Aren't they supposed to be interested in National Merit Finalists?
Dean and FIRST aren't misrepresenting or over stating anything. Schools are interested in Dean's List Finalists and Winners. Being on FIRST's Dean's List tells schools a lot about the individual applying. But it doesn't say everything, and even for a Dean's List Winner the rest of the application has to be gold in order to get you into the best of the best colleges.