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Re: "noodle hats" for Quals

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Originally Posted by EricH View Post
I think you're comparing apples and oranges.
At least I was still with fruit. Actually, what I was trying to do was dismiss "who built it" from the equation; you did that much more clearly. So I think we agree on this; who built the part is not really relevant.

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Sure, for the match, it's part of the robot using it, and has to pass inspection on that robot. But for the competition, which robot is it a part of? Can you tell me, that for the entire competition, it is not a part of Team A's.
Yes, I have no problem saying that I don't think this is part of team A's robot. To whom the mechanism belongs is irrelevant; what matters imo is to which robot that mechanism is attached. The part we're discussing clearly is not a ROBOT itself; it doesn't have "...all of the basic systems....". In fact, it's not even one of those basic systems; blocking shots is not required to play this year's game.

I hope I'm staying within the fruit category again ; how about this: Team A has a problem with their digital sidecar, and borrows one from team B next door, who has a spare. Later in the day, they get their own replacement & swap out team A's part for the one that belongs to them. The next morning, team C needs a sidecar & borrows the same sidecar from team A. I don't think anyone would consider the sidecar part of team A's robot even if they are on the field at the same time as the sidecar, both times. I also don't think anyone would find any problem with that scenario whatsoever. If you think it's unrealistic for team B to swap out a sidecar twice, substitute whatever part you'd like.

I know it's not the exact situation, but in my mind, at least, it's a relevant analogy. I don't think FABRICATION vs. COTS part makes any difference on the question of "to which robot does this part belong?" I don't really think we're disagreeing here, although I find it an interesting discussion that's helping me think about the rules a bit. Which is good, since I'm going to need them when inspections start in St. Louis. Which is now about 94 hours away.
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