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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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Originally Posted by jdaming View Post
I believe I fall somewhere in between you two. I think that 8 practice matches is too few. If the only solution to that is to not allow waitlist teams than so be it (one team I have mentored was a waitlist team that got in).
This, I can agree with. Reducing the total number of teams that get in off the waitlist for logistical reasons, and to increase the quality of the event for the teams which qualified, is a perfectly reasonable aim.

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BUT the quote about "many Championship robots that simply were not Championship caliber" is entirely off base. If a team builds a "not Championship quality robot" but does wonderful things in their community and wins a Chairmans award are you really suggesting that they shouldn't get in? I can safely assume you are not but this is the very grey line you are crossing. Should "not Championship quality robot" rookies get into champs? I think we should try to inspire as many teams as possible without severely impacting other teams. In this case I believe teams were impacted by not getting enough matches, but the "quality" of robots is not the point as Oblarg points out.
And this is essentially my point - and no, I do not think that he is advocating that teams which qualify but are "not championship quality" be denied access. What I took his post to mean is that we should continue to allow waitlist teams, but pick and choose which ones based on perceived robot quality.

That, to me, reeks of elitist nonsense and seems entirely contrary to the spirit of FIRST.

If I am, indeed, misreading this, and this is not what he was advocating, and Jared would like to clarify such, I would be very happy to hear it.
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