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Re: Referee not knowing the rules

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Originally Posted by rwkling1 View Post
one of our alliance partners were blamed of touching another robot that was in the safe zone. They called a technical foul on us, but it should have been only 3 pts, because (if I'm wrong, just say in the comments) if they were loading, that's 20 pts, but if they're just in the safe zone and getting prepared to load, it's 3

Relavent Rules:

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G18-1
Strategies aimed solely at forcing the opposing ALLIANCE to violate a rule are not in the spirit of FRC and are not allowed. Rule violations forced in this manner will not result in assessment of a penalty on the target ALLIANCE .

Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL

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G30
Regardless of who initiates the contact, a ROBOT may not contact an opponent ROBOT

contacting its PYRAMID or
touching the carpet in its LOADING ZONE.


Violation: FOUL. If purposeful or consequential, TECHNICAL FOUL. If an opponent's CLIMB is affected, each affected opponent ROBOT will be granted credit for a Level 3 CLIMB at the end of the MATCH.
How did your partner touch them in the loading zone? Was it purposeful or consequential? If so then the tech foul was correct.

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Originally Posted by rwkling1 View Post
one of their alliance partners was trying to block our full court shooter by extending an 84 inch blocker up, this is totally ok, but they weren't always in their auto zone...After the match was over, we lost by about 8 pts, but they didn't give us the multiple technical fouls they had, because they 'didn't see it.
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G22
ROBOT height (as defined in relation to the ROBOT) must be restricted as follows during the MATCH:

If in contact with the carpet in its AUTO ZONE and/or its PYRAMID, ≤ 84 in.
Otherwise, ≤ 60 in.


Violation: FOUL. If continuous or repeated violations, TECHNICAL FOUL.
If it happens once it is a FOUL. If it happens continuously or repeatedly, then it is a technical foul. If the 84" blocker is pushed out of the autozone by the opposing alliance, they need to make all attempts to get back into the zone (as mentioned in driver's meetings.) If they do, just a regular FOUL will be called.

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Originally Posted by rwkling1 View Post
Myself and another alliance partner began to tell the ref during the match that he couldn't do that, that it was a technical foul.
Don't talk to a ref during the match, they are just a little bit preoccupied, you know, reffing and all. You wouldn't want to talk to them and have them miss a call would you?

Also, I hope you didn't leave the alliance station, because if you did then you should have been red carded. If you didn't leave the alliance station that means you were yelling at the ref, which violates G-18.

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G18
All Teams must be civil towards other Teams, competition personnel, and event attendees.

Violation: Potential RED CARD for violations in the ARENA.
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