[George C]

Isn't it time to stop referring to Ontario's (or Canada's) "second tier". 1114 and 2056 (and many other teams) build excellent robots and have great teams but I don't think it's fair to go on about how they set the bar higher etc. If they weren't around would any team feel they could slack off on their design? We design and build the best robot we can with the resources we have - regardless of what other teams are doing.