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Re: Standardized District Point Model

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Originally Posted by DevenStonow View Post
Now, I had started researching an analysis to see how the teams that won Chairman's in NE regionals this year and last year would have qualified based off their robot performance using these rankings, but then I realized that it contains the original NE point proposal. Has anyone applied the FiM/MAR ranking style to NE for last year?
Lot of discussion in a bunch of different threads... the short answer is yes, I & others have looked at applying the FiM model to NE teams... (one of the models I looked at included applying the FiM points)
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Originally Posted by Kims Robot View Post
This depends on the model that is used. As it is possible/likely that FIRST will be standardizing the system across the districts, and its hard to tell what the final result will be. Using several points model simulators (ie the ones in this thread), of the 5 NE winners, only one was even close to the cutoff of the 53/60 line in one model I've seen (and easily made it in several others). Yes if you add 4 more, there is a slight possibility that the robots will not be as high in points, but in general, I think the District points wont produce as wide a variation as the CA performance at Worlds correlation.
Back to the general topic, I am all for the standardization... it's one less thing for the District Organizers to worry about, and it will get us much more quickly to a system that will allow for cross district play.

My only hope is that FIRST does (or involves the people that have done) countless hours of simulation on whatever model they come up with to help prove that compared to past years this new model will send the "right" teams to Championship based on whatever philosophy the group deams appropriate. (ie I want to know that someone "did the math")

And I agree with some of the previous suggestions that Im not a huge fan of the Auto-bids, but I do think CA & at least winning captain, possibly EI & RAS too should end up with high enough points that its almost no question they get into DCMP. Now the award winners shouldn't be slackers on the robot side. I wouldnt expect to see a CA robot that was 39th/40 and didnt make elims at both their district events have a robot at DCMP or even WCMP, but looking at the past data, CA teams seem to have relatively strong robots. I'm ok with EI or RAS teams only getting to "present" at DCMP... but if they then get to bring their robots to WCMP... they end up with a disadvantage at WCMP as they have had fewer plays than everyone else. So I think whatever model is adopted for Districts would likely have to be applied to WCMP as well... or maybe have a 5th Division that allows all these teams to play at WCMP, but doesn't qualify them for Einstein?? I dunno... plenty of ideas/discussion to kick around there.

At any rate, I'm excited to see what FIRST comes up with (and secretly happy to not have to deal with it at the NE level! ).
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Last edited by Kims Robot : 02-08-2013 at 12:10. Reason: clarifying what I "looked at" :)
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