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Originally Posted by Thunder910
Let's think from a picking perspective. At Connecticut, there was a very good, consistent Climb/Dump, Team 2170.
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2170 is a very good example of a climber dumper. In my opinion, their fatal flaw wasn't their design or strategy so much as their choice of regional. Connecticut is an incredibly deep regional, with several three cycler alliances forming and 100+ point scores being a requirement to break the quarter finals. I'd argue that if a team like them was available at the Championship, they had a respectable shot at being selected for the elimination rounds in the weaker divisions. They were even faster than 4451, had a drivetrain suitable for playing defense, and with the right driver and strategy could have robbed two cycles from an alliance while also scoring 50 points a match.
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We talk about 4451 as being one of the most successful climb/dumps, but they never won an event(you can srgue that they should have, but the fact remains that they didn't), and they weren't picked at Champs because of this.
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If we're defining success as "winning an event", I guess 67 didn't have a very successful year in 2013...