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I agree with everything you just said except for the last paragraph, Super Damman, and before I get to verdyw's post, I'll explain why.
Nothing ever EVER gets resolved by quietly shuffling it away into a cabinet. True, that none of us will probably convince another of our side, but through the argument it lets us explore what we truly think. What if people still said, "Let's not talk about this astronomy buiness--it doesn't matter whether the sun revolves around the Earth or vice versa"? I, personaly love to argue, and Doanie8, you did see all that stuff, just on the first few pages. No one is standing with a gun pointed to your head forcing you to read this--if you have some sort of morbid need to read things taht make you upset, that's your own problem to handle. And we by far are no where near flaming eachother (it's not like we've made any personal attacks here). Finally, your own post has proven it. If no one were to voice their opinion for the argument to end, then it would never have even been considered, thus the thought of WHY such talk should be encouraged may have never come to be. See? It's all about conflict--and we can still be friendly about it.

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They did. Is it the same thing as jumping on top of a grenade to save comrades in battle? No. Is it equally noble? Yes. These men and women, along with all astronauts, know acutely the risks associated with their job, but feel that the job to be done is worth the risk. At the time of the launch. about one in 100 space shuttle flights had ended tragically. The astronauts on board the shuttle knew this. They knew that, even with the best efforts of everyone involved, there was a chance they could die on this mission. But they went anyway. They bravely sacrificed their lives.

Do you think that the people in the minivan believe that their destination is worth a one in 100 chance of dying on the trip?

I'm SO gonna have to disagree with you. While there is a good risk (about 1 in 100 ir so) of a shuttle going down each mission, that is by no means sacrficing your life. These people didn't KNOW they were going to die, unlike your grenade parallel, where it is certain death to save the lives of others. They didn't take of knowing they were going to die as grenade man made the decision to make the dive knowing full well not only the chances of survival, but the certain outcome.
And hey, speaking of those PMs, the notification just hit my inbox. How bout that?

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There's a difference between being "thoughtful" and just being an $@#$@#$@#. And, finally, if you think that human beings are nothing more than a collection of hormones, chemical processes, and electrical systems, then there can be no convincing you that the deaths of these people was tragic and worth your attention.
Yest, there is a difference. My friend here thought to the best of his logical abilities, and found no way to look at it another way than by the conclusions he reached. Relying on what's been ingrained on you through your life isn't enough for me--this whole "faith in the moral majority" thing makes me shake my head.
And, FAK, you're all alone on the attention thing, although I think you would agree.

Edit: Holy crap those are big PMs.
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