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Re: Championship Location Announced

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Originally Posted by themccannman View Post
As several other people have mentioned, due to the large average size of FRC teams along with the volume of teams at CMP, we're approaching the maximum capacity of any city to host the event. I don't think you can take many more than 400 teams to a single city to compete due to the physical limitations of the city itself, I can't think of very many places that can handle a regular population influx of 25,000+ people in one week. Instead of increasing the size of CMP I think the only solution (as previously mentioned) is adding another layer of qualification, e.g. super regionals. Looking at other highschool sports their qualification ladder goes something like this:

divisions --> sections --> regions --> states --> nationals --> worlds.

FRC could adapt a similar method with districts --> regionals --> CMP.

I hope I'm not being redundant but I'm just casting my vote.
Certainly this is the direction things will have to go long-term. Until we get more districts online though, this isn't a workable solution.

I don't believe that we've reached the maximum feasible size for CMP.

I agree there are few places that have the space and the ability to deal with the influx of people a bigger CMP would require.

I would say, actually that there is just two. Orlando, and the OCCC, or Atlanta, and the GWCC/Georgia Dome.

Examining dual-field divisions a bit further:

I think we all agree that GWCC had significantly more space than we needed for the pits. Enough to easily house up to ~600 FRC teams, plus FLL and FTC, still with room to spare.

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Is an NFL-football field (large rectangle, 360x160ft), with 12 FRC-field sized areas (40x70ft) drawn on it. The truth of the matter is that the floor of both the EJD and the GD are significantly larger than an NFL field, so things wouldn't be quite this cramped.

While Einstein is being used for FLL, it could be curtained off from Archi and Curie to reduce noise pollution. Then for the Einstein rounds, some of the Archi and Curie seating can serve dual-duty with the curtains dropped.

In 2013, we played 134 matches per division, with an average cycle time of 7:03, with 100 team divisions.

Each team played 8 matches, except 4 per division who each played a surrogate match.

With a match cycle time of 7:03, there is no reason to believe that achieving 200% of a single field's matches is impossible, but for sake of argument, lets say you achieve 194%. 260 matches, at 6 teams/match, and 130 teams/division = 12 matches per team. 520 team CMP capacity AND everyone gets 12 matches, without extending the length of the event. For what its worth, 7:03 cycle times is the longest cycle times CMP has had since 2008.

Everyone cites a limited number of volunteers as a sticking point for a bigger CMP. I don't see that as a problem. Bigger CMP, means more teams, means more people to volunteer.
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