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I seem to remember hearing one of the mentors from one of thier team specifically told me and a freind of mine (who can back me up) that ONLY TWO STUDENTS WERE ALLOWED TO WORK ON THE ROBOT AT A TIME. That might not be a big problem, but when anything smaller than the concept and general profile of the vehicle is designed by the adults (did I mention that while there are only two students, there are four of them, at least one standing over thier shoulders at any given time, telling them what to do. I don't care if they tell them why--you're supposed to figure out the how by yourself--you learn it better that way--a teacher should simply be a guide). Now I'm not going to name any names, but anyone at the LA regionals last year knows exactly who I'm talking about. Oh how I wish we even had access to a machine shop (everything we do is made with what's in the class room--our most advanced pieces of machinary are the drillpress and jigsaw).
On a side note, I just realized that Socrates is a bigger martyr than Jesus. At least some people CLAIM to understand and follow Jesus' teachings.
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"Proof is King. Logic is Prime Minister." -Force-Attuned Krokoth
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"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow." -Samuel Clemens
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