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Re: Back for more..VEXpro 2014 Product Unveiling
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Originally Posted by Answer42
A COTS 3 pound PTO gearbox. FRC certainly has come a long way.It used to be only the top 1% of teams could pull something like that off.
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We do not know the rules for 2014, so I'll ask this question in reference to last year. Would the PTO gear box from WCP have been legal in 2013? The gear box without pneumatic cylinders is around $350. With both cylinders it's $430-ish. You can purchase the gear box without them, but it won't function. Of course the same is true for motors and pinions. If you purchased the full assembly with pneumatics, motors and pinions for just over $525 would it have been legal?
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4.1.3.2 R12
No individual item shall have a value that exceeds $400 USD. The total cost of COMPONENTS purchased in bulk may
exceed $400 as long as the cost of an individual COMPONENT does not exceed $400.
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4.1.3.5 R15
If a COTS item is part of a modular system that can be assembled in several possible configurations, then each
individual module must fit within the price constraints defined in R12.
If the modules are designed to assemble into a single configuration, and the assembly is functional in only that
configuration, then the total cost of the complete assembly including all modules must fit within the price constraints
defined in R12.
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In summary, if a VENDOR sells a system or a kit, a team must use the entire system/kit
Fair Market Value and not the value of its COMPONENT pieces.
Example1: VENDOR A sells a gearbox that can be used with a number of different gear sets, and can mate with two different motors they sell. A team purchases the gearbox, a
gear set, and a motor (which are not offered together as an assembly or kit), then
assembles them together. Each part is treated separately for the purpose of BOM
costing, since the purchased pieces can each be used in various configurations.
Example2: VENDOR B sells a robotic arm assembly that the team wants to use.
However, it costs $700, so they cannot use it. The Vendor sells the “hand”, “wrist” and
“arm” as separate assemblies, for $200 each. A team wishes to purchase the three
components separately, then reassemble them. This would not be legal, as they are
really buying and using the entire assembly, which has a Fair Market Value of $700
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PS. If FIRST had a goal of more teams doing their own design work they could lower the $400 limit. If they wanted to lessen the amount of design work they could raise it instead.
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Last edited by Alpha Beta : 12-12-2013 at 11:31.
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