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Re: Shafts in Drivetrains

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Originally Posted by Andrew Lawrence View Post
I should have gone into more detail - my apologies - Yes, as Akash said, you shouldn't have a problem with cantilevered shafts if you use the right grade material in the correct manner. For a live axle setup, 7075 aluminum in 1/2" hex should work perfectly. I've yet to have problems with it.
You're still missing way too much detail to speak in general here. The point of interest is more than just the shaft sizing; how the load is applied and supported also matters. Essentially you want the cantilevered load as close to the support as possible and each of the support bearings a reasonable distance apart. In a drivetrain it's fairly easy to get those supports far enough apart, so unless you're doing something really strange like half-inch tubing, the main area of attention should be getting the load as close to the support as possible. Don't space out wheels or use excessive spacing between sprockets.

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If you're doing anything smaller or dead axle, I'd go with a steel alloy (I hear 4140 is good), though I find it better to stick with live axle and use 7075 al.
You're saying that for an equal size shaft and load, you need steel for a dead axle but can use aluminum for a live axle? I don't follow; the bending loads on the shaft should be identical. If anything the lack of torsional loads on the axle would slightly reduce the stresses involved on a dead axle.

OP: If you're deviating from the tried and true 1/2" shafting west coast type setup, you should probably do some math to be sure. Very simple statics, just draw a free body diagram and look at the forces and moments at play. If you need help with this I can walk you through the math; I'm a bit busy at the moment though.
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