View Single Post
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 07-01-2014, 17:39
Jon Stratis's Avatar
Jon Stratis Jon Stratis is offline
Electrical/Programming Mentor
FRC #2177 (The Robettes)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Rookie Year: 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 3,753
Jon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond reputeJon Stratis has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Suggestions for resolving stuck balls

For a ball stuck in a robot...

If the robot is still functional and driving around, then I think it's really just too bad for the alliance. Yes, it sucks and you might lose the match because of it, but it was the alliance's decision to use that robot as part of the cycle. There's no way for the refs to be able to tell if a ball is permanently stuck, or if the robot will manage to eject it later in the game. Personally, I really don't want to force the refs to make a judgement call in this situation. If it does come down to a judgement call, there will be plenty of times where the team's judgement is different from the refs and people won't be happy. Can't you see the complaining now? "Why didn't you declare the ball dead 30 seconds earlier? We would have won the match!" "Why did you declare the ball dead? We just weren't quite lined up perfectly to shoot yet!"

If a robot is e-stopped with a ball, then it's easy for the ref's to call the ball dead. We don't want to encourage teams to perform full-speed ramming actions on a dead robot in order to try to eject the ball! A dead robot is probably dead for a reason, and that type of abuse won't help. I think the e-stop solution is the best one. It gives the alliance the option (in the case of a momentary loss of connection, like a cRIO reboot or a radio reset) to keep the ball in play or lose the robot for the rest of the match to get a new ball.
__________________
2007 - Present: Mentor, 2177 The Robettes
LRI: North Star 2012-2016; Lake Superior 2013-2014; MN State Tournament 2013-2014, 2016; Galileo 2016; Iowa 2017
2015: North Star Regional Volunteer of the Year
2016: Lake Superior WFFA
Reply With Quote