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Unread 11-01-2014, 19:49
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FTC 3507 Robo Theosis -- FRC 3135
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Re: G12 Update clarification

This still does not clarify whether positioning lower goal blocking robot extensions sufficiently across (but outside) their faces, and then leaving them statically positioned while an opponent tries to score the ball past them, would be considered a defensive trapping violation.

If the defensive blocker remains static, the ball's contact with their defensive elements is 100% initiated by the offense bot's pushing of the ball, so IMO it should not be a trapping foul.

If it is not a foul, then many bots will be able to easily prevent any balls being scored at a lower goal with minimum deployment(s) of lower goal blocking elements. It will also raise another concern for when a goal blocking element might be deformed by the ball pushing against it to point of passing inside the plane of the goal face. Since the offensive bot would be causing it to happen, it should not be a foul, but what if ball then gets wedged against inside of goal, against a deformed blocking element such that ball cannot pass further inward or be pull back outward.

That would put scoring on permanent hold for the offensive team, yet it would seem they caused their own demise by trying to force the ball past the goal blocking element. Yet the defender may have intentionally designed their blocking elements to specifically cause this kind of a result.

-Dick Ledford
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Last edited by RRLedford : 11-01-2014 at 20:02.