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Re: Using more than 8 24v solenoids

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo View Post
How does 1 "waste" air? All of it is doing work
We have always designed to minimise the tubing between the valve and the cylinder, as air in tubes between them is dumped when the valve is cycled, ie. the air in the tubes don't contribute to the force, but is still used up. Is this correct? Or am I being over-conservative in the volume wasted?

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What are the "obvious reasons"?
We'd like to avoid mixing inventories, if there are no 12v solenoids to plug into the 24v breakout, then it can't happen.

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6. Redesign things to need fewer cylinders, using motors and other choices.
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Originally Posted by cbale2000 View Post
The unwritten rule of thumb on our team has generally been "If you need more than 8 solenoids, you probably have too many pneumatics on the robot".
My favourite option, however Mech doesn't agree.

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Are you using two position (toggle) solenoids or one position (hold-on) solenoids? You can cut the number of channels you're using in half by using the latter of the two (depending on the application of course).
We are using 5/2 solenoids, (specifically these http://www.firstchoicebyandymark.com/en/fc14-098) I'm under the impression that one position solenoids return to the home position when the robot is disabled, as such we have discounted them for safety reasons in our application, is this correct?
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