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Re: What is considered a catch

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Originally Posted by DMike View Post
A Blue bot on one side of the truss throws the ball over the truss to a Blue aliance member that is actively being defended from said catch by red defender.

The ball goes into the red bot, whats the call ? The Blue throwing bot is aware of the increased possibility that the ball will go into the red bot, but attempts the throw regardless.

Is the Red bot penalized ? If yes, why would the Red bot accept the risk involed in defending the throw?
I believe that the RED robot would receive a G12:
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G12
An ALLIANCE may not POSSESS their opponent’s BALLS. The following criteria define POSSESSION :

“carrying” (moving while supporting BALLS in or on the ROBOT or holding the BALL in or on the ROBOT),
“herding” (repeated pushing or bumping),
“launching” (impelling BALLS to a desired location or direction via a MECHANISM in motion relative to the ROBOT), or
“trapping” (overt isolation or holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them).
Yes, there is always going to be some possibility that a ball a BLUE robot threw is caught by a RED robot accidently, but I hardly think that a BLUE robot passing to another BLUE robot (even with defense being played) would be considered a G14:

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G14
Strategies aimed solely at forcing the opposing ALLIANCE to violate a rule are not in the spirit of FRC and are not allowed. Rule violations forced in this manner will not result in assessment of a penalty on the target ALLIANCE.
The RED robot would accept the risk based on alliance strategy, robot design, driver ability, and probability of this specific scenario occurring, while weighing the benefits to the alliance of playing defense.
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