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Originally Posted by Peter Matteson
1). I have no clue how that will be ruled if anyone pulls it off. I think the correct answer is no alliance will likely pull it off so the question is moot.
2-4) None of these would be possesion by both robots. To any casual obsever and by the other definitions the first robot never relinquishes control of the ball. You will not win an arguement like this with the referees because they will be calling obvious control for posession.
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I think in every scenario the OP laid out Two assists should be counted. ASSISTS are defined by Unique POSESSION in a unique ZONE. Nowhere in the rules does it say that 2 robots can't POSSES a ball at the same time.
In fact, a Q & A addressed this concern.... (Question #415)
Q: If one robot is carrying a ball, can it create a trap with a second alliance robot while maintaining the carry?
A: Generally, yes, but the specific MATCH situation will determine the Referee's decision.
If FIRST Referees plan on calling matches based on "obvious" control and not calling matches based on the rules then you're going to have a lot of upset coaches, drivers and teams.
FIRST really dropped the ball in not having a section of the rules to differentiate possession of your alliance ball versus an opponent ball.
If this doesn't get addressed, I fully expect to get 3 assists when each one of my alliance robots...
- "Traps" the ball against the wall in each zone for even a split second.
-"Herds" the ball by simply driving into it twice in each zone.
-"Launches" the ball by driving into it once with my drive train (Which I consider a Mechanism) in each zone. (You could argue this one but you get the point)
ETC, ETC, ETC....