
08-03-2014, 21:43
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Raptors can't turn doorknobs.
 FRC #1718 (The Fighting Pi)
Team Role: Mentor
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 1999
Location: Armada, Michigan
Posts: 2,537
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Re: 2014 Greater Toronto East Regional
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Originally Posted by Mr. Lim
Yes, our human player once took a 50 point penalty catching a poorly thrown ball from the Field Reset Crew. His hand extended for a short period past the yellow tape.
We've had our intake out to pick up a ball, and been slammed into from the side, and had the intake swipe an opponent's robot inside the frame perimeter as a result. Again a 50 pt penalty.
I'm being 100% honest in saying that both the situations above are very different than what happened in SF1-2. 4718 had the entire half of the field themselves when the opposing ball landed. No other robots pushed them or forced them to go towards the ball. The ball landed feet away from them, and they chose to drive towards it. I've told my drive crew not to play defense on the opposing ball, only the opposing robots - that's how the rules are written due to these tech fouls. We asked the Q&A quoted earlier in this thread to clarify too. "Accidentally" catching a ball was a risk just not worth taking.
I find it hard to say that 4718 was forced into taking this penalty.
My opinion is that they made a mistake driving towards the ball, that ended up being a very costly one.
10/10 times my strategy guys would've said the better move would've been to drive towards the robot expected to pick up the ball and score it, to seal them off from the ball.
I agree there are some "forced" penalties in this game that I have seen, that are less than fair...
...but this is NOT one of them.
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I agree completely with your statement. I disagree with the idea that you can play clean in this game. No matter how smart you pay there is a good chance the rules are going to bite you in the butt. That's bad.
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