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Re: Balls In Opposing Robots

On this note also, I would say be careful about calling for a dead ball twice in a match. As we saw at UNH this weekend, this can be grounds for a replay. The ball getting lodged in another team results in a 100 point penalty, however, you must wait for the head ref to suspend the cycle.

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If an ALLIANCE’S BALL becomes stuck in an opposing ALLIANCE’S ROBOT, the Head Referee will signal an extended infraction of G12 (the assumption is that the ALLIANCE has already been penalized for the initial G12 infraction). At this point, the Head Referee will suspend the current CYCLE and re-illuminate the PEDESTAL, beginning another CYCLE for that ALLIANCE. If the stuck BALL is freed, that ball will be considered FIELD debris.
I would advise all teams not to call for a dead ball in this situation. In our third semifinal match we got the blue alliances ball stuck in our robot in this semifinal match (In what may be the best unintentional catch thus far).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcMtO...k57J7Q# t=170

You will see at 3:11 that the blue alliance on the right side of the screen holds up the dead ball sign. Then the match proceeds and one of their teammates gets the ball lodged in them. You can see at 3:56 that a second dead ball is called for.

Even though the second dead ball replacement is never put into play it was deemed that just calling for it was grounds for a replay of this semi final match. Luckily, this did not affect the outcome of this semifinal series, but under other circumstances it certainly could have.
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