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Re: Ethics of Telling a Team "No"

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Originally Posted by Whippet View Post
No.

This happened to us over the weekend. We were essentially told to disable our auto and sit in the goalie zone for the whole match. We still won, but I can now say that there is no feeling worse than receiving a win that you didn't contribute to, or, even worse, contributed to through inactivity. (I hold no grudges against the teams involved, both of which are very successful teams who easily deserve the success that have, but I do believe that we could have contributed a lot more to that alliance if they had taken the time to listen to our input.)
A team said that we should just not have a ball at the start of auto to allow for quick cycles, believing that our drive train was still in disrepair from the prior matches where it veered to the left and failed in autonomous. Through insistent nudges, eventually we were able to convince this team to agree and we got it on the field, detected hot correctly and winded up scoring a 70-point auto. From then on, we didn't miss a single hot auto in qualifications and got the 2nd highest auto score besides the first few matches (1st was 1114; who would have thought? )

This is what makes this topic so interesting; teams want to win, but they can also miss out on a great opportunity if a team claims that they have something working. Sometimes this isn't true, as was the case with other teams on our alliances, but telling a team "no" can leave you out of a truthful statement and ultimately leave you out of a win.
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