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Re: Ethics of Telling a Team "No"

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Originally Posted by DampRobot View Post
You can and should tell a team no (to loading auto balls, to shoot at the high goal, etc) if you think it will help you win the match. However, if they think they have a better plan to win the match than you, they don't have to follow your advice.

There's a role on an alliance for any team that can drive. Even if they don't have an amazing shooter, they can still contribute to a win by getting assist points, playing D, etc. If a team is telling you that you're so bad you should stay in the corner, you have a definite right to tell them to sick it. If you believe your robot should take a more dominant role in a match, work with the other teams so you get assist points.

When I had trouble convincing teams to play D in the offseason, I often reminded them that given their current scouting report, they weren't going to be picked because of their shooting performance (which was often mediocre at best). They were going to get picked because they could play great D, something we were offering to help them do.
The discussion was more for the teams that are prone to fouls; if they incur several foul in the match regardless of how well they performed, than you can end the match instantly. In my example, it was when a robot was too tall and the team claimed that they weren't--during the match, we lost because they got 70 foul points.

But I do agree with what you said.
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