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Originally Posted by Travis Hoffman
Here's the video of Crossroads Q5, which clearly shows the "infraction" at match end - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhSMpfk40k
Also, here's video that clearly shows a pedestal lighting delay near the end of Q24, a five point loss that a truss would have erased, had we been given the time we deserved to execute it. I believe you can hear the people recording the video (the good folks at 2252) commenting on the situation, but I can't be sure. The opposing alliance was given plenty of time to execute their winning truss shot, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_dioSONuRo
Add two wins to our total, and we're 7-5 and looking at a potential top 12 seed, and that doesn't even include the other transgressions meriting a question box visit throughout qualifying.
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Mr. Hoffman,
I would have to disagree with both of your statements.
First the issue with the technical foul at the end of Q5 the video does not clearly show that the robot coasts out of bounds. I would say that the video confirms that the robot was out of bounds. The robot was out of bounds before the match ends and coasted further out of bounds. The match ends between 2:31 and 2:32. The robot that you point out is clearly out of bounds between these two times. The most reliable person in this situation to trust is the ref that was standing right in front of the robot in question.
Second issue being the pedestal lighting at the end of Q24. It appears that there is around a 2 second delay for the field to turn off the assist lights around the goal which should be around the same time the pedestal turns on. It takes around 7 seconds for a referee to finalize the score. Ideally it would take 9 seconds from when a ball is scored to when the pedestal light turns on. We all know that referees have much more to look at then just scoring. So a delay longer than 8 seconds is not out of the ordinary.
If you would like to nitpick the end of the match I see multiple infractions. Looking at end of the match it appears that the pedestal does not ever light up. I say the pedestal never lights up because the lights above the driver’s station do not turn off. For some reason the human player comes around and inbounds the ball. When the human player is inbounding the ball he steps out of the box there for a 10 point penalty. Assuming the human player took the ball off the pedestal when it was not lit that is a technical foul there for a 50 point penalty. The ball illegally taken off the pedestal is also in bounded which is a technical foul so another 50 point penalty. A grand total of 120 points in penalties. Even if there was a last second truss for 10 points the match would not have been close.
Even with the delay I do not see a need for a replay on qualification match 24. The delay was not long enough.
The fact of the matter is that the few complaints were from qualification instead of finals is fantastic.
There were some mistakes made at the regional but all in all it was a great event. Thanks to all the volunteers that helped out including field reset, referees, judges, and everyone else that assisted with the regional.
One more thing for everyone to think about is that F.I.R.S.T. cannot change too much for how regionals are scored and played. It would not be fair to teams that played the first few weeks.