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Re: Two balls on the field in Howell QF-1-2

Scoring Progression for Red alliance

10+5+5 for 469's hot goal in Auton
10+5 for HOT's non-HOT goal in Auton
10 for 67 and 469 moving forward
Total 45 Auton points

Cycle 1
10 for 469 Truss
10 for 469 score
67 disposes of dead ball for 0 points
Total Score 65

Cycle 2
10 for 67 Truss
Score to this point 75

Here is where the confusion starts:

If 469 contacted the ball and the ref counted it as a possession it should count for 1+10+20
Score should be 106

If 469 contacted the ball and the ref did not count it as possession but because they contacted it according to Section 3.1.4 the ball is scored it should count for 11
Score should be 86
This is the most likely case because there are 2 assist lights on at that point so this is what I'll use for my cycle 3 calculations.

If the ball does not count as scored and is supposed to be returned to the field it is later scored by 469 in the high goal and should count for 10+10+20
Score should be 115 (this is clearly not the case since the final score was 111)

Cycle 3
This ball may be either a 2 assist since 3548 inbounded the ball or a 1 assist because when this ball went through the goal there was only 1 assist on the ball (I have no explanation for why).
Score should be either 96 or 106.


Cycle 4
10 for 67 Truss
Score should be either 106 or 116.

Ironically the scoring mistake in this match is in the very clear portion of the match... auton. Since that is the only way we could possibly be off by 5 points from the final actual score because 5 low goal balls were not scored. Any thoughts on that? Did I mess up somewhere?

I understand the refs have an impossible job and the field reset does as well. No one blames you. This game is very frustrating for everyone.
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Last edited by Mike Schreiber : 16-03-2014 at 14:43. Reason: typo