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Unread 17-03-2014, 01:20
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Re: Tip over/knock over - when is it a foul?

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Originally Posted by switte View Post
I or any part of my team does not own this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwmP...e_gdata_player

My team was on the other end of the tipping. We know that our robot does have a high center of gravity and have been trying to get that as low as possible without compromising our design, but still thought the play was a bit foul.

We also believed that there were many G28 infringements made by the 2144 robot that were not called. They were trying to play defense with their intake down, and ended up many some dents in our A frame, the back of our shooter and the bottom of our bellypan and also ripped off a sensor wire off the back of our shooter. They would have also taken out of several encoders and our main timing belts on our arms had we not made proper guards for them. I worry for other teams that may have not taken the precaution we did would be damaged for several matches and may not even be able to compete.

After seeing how 2144 was playing defense one of our mentors went to talk to the team. They talking to them after the match, we did not get the sense that they understood or even cared about what they did on the field.

I am not trying go after this team, and maybe there is a side of the story I have not heard yet, but I do want to express the concern that the driving was reckless and will not be accepted lightly at any competition. I recommend that this team work to play cleaner because they did field a well performing robot that could do very well if it played cleaner.
I am the mentor that your mentor spoke with and I purposely did not post links to the video because of the situation that you mentioned. We are trying to learn from the incident and will make adjustments to our strategies and that is why I posted the matter without the video. I told your mentor that I would review the video, talk to our driver and make changes. I have done that and am currently learning through this process. We admire the craftsmanship and technology designed into your robot and did not intend to damage your robot during that match and I told your mentor that we were sorry as a team if we were too aggressive.

Our intake arm has been adjusted so that it will be up when not picking up the ball.

The other tip over occurred in a earlier match where a robot was positioned between our robot and the ball with the ball against the wall. While going for the ball the opposing robot was turned over thus trapping the ball between the wall and the other robot.

As you can see in the video posted our robot does not have any unusual device that would cause a robot to fall over other than a low center of gravity and the standard AndyMark KOP drive system. We are not out to destroy other robots but we do want to play competitively.

Thank you for all of your comments we appreciate them and will learn from them.

Last edited by Willyspu : 17-03-2014 at 01:25.