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Originally Posted by Hallry
There are other ways to create an archive of match footage instead of uploading them to your own account, as shown by The Blue Alliance.
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One of the interesting implications of the user interface design of a video hosting site is the varying emphasis on implied ownership of content, depending on how you access the videos. In some pages, many sites definitely give the appearance of ownership, while in others, it's fairly clear that the content is hosted there because the uploader is asserting fair use.
Given the need to manage the content centrally (to make an archive consistent in function and appearance), uploading with a single account used only for that purpose is a good compromise. Definitely include an explicit credit to the original source, preferably including a link outside the video (so that if the embedding breaks, the content can still be found, and so that the source is clearly acknowledged).
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Originally Posted by Hallry
It is also insulting to other teams to have their footage stolen from them, without having been asked permission or have been given any credit. Downloading and then uploading others' videos to your own account without permission or mentioning their source can be seem by some as claiming the content as your own. Theft is theft in my mind, which I don't view as professional. |
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Originally Posted by Hallry
The audio would still violate Fair Use on Vimeo, and could still be removed due to it being illegal. And, they are subject to being deleted/removed by users since they are their property, and thus the users retain the right to take down their work if they have their own reasons, which they should. |
Strictly speaking, it's not quite theft (which is always a criminal act, by definition). Copyright infringement can be criminal (relatively rarely), but is more frequently a civil tort. And even then, copying without permission frequently isn't copyright infringement, particularly if fair use or fair dealing are applicable.
As to the Vimeo FAQ item: that's an oversimplification, likely for the purpose of saving (a lot of) work for Vimeo. They're not explaining the limit of what's legal, or even the limit of their policy; they're explaining what they'd prefer that you do.
Regarding intellectual property rights, in the United States, there's a
fairly straightforward (though not perfect) procedure for giving notice of alleged infringement, taking the content down, protesting the takedown and reinstating the content, and then opening legal proceedings (if desired). Basically, fair use is a defence to copyright infringement, and if you assert it
using that procedure, the owner has to sue you and convince a court that it is not fair use.
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Originally Posted by Hallry
I'm not trying to put down your efforts, I just don't understand where the fairness is in taking other team's footage without permission or recognition and posting it on your own account without their knowledge.
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That approach, writ large, underlies the Internet Archive's efforts to archive the entire public Internet at relatively frequent intervals. Their argument is that the value of having (what amounts to) a set of cultural artifacts frozen in time and archived by a neutral party outweighs the personal intellectual property rights of their creators, so long as the content is used for limited purposes that are justifiable under United States fair use law.
You might make similar arguments for this archive, though they might be somewhat weaker given the limited scope of WatchFIRSTNow.