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Originally Posted by FrankJ
If a blue alliance robot had touch the ball beyond the truss, it meets the definition for scored. If the red robot processed the blue ball, it would be scored & a red penalty.
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It fails to meet the first point, "a ROBOT causes one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S BALLS to cross completely and remain completely through the opening(s) of one (1) of their ALLIANCE’S GOALS without intervening TEAM member contact"
The robot that caused the action was causing one of their
opponents balls to cross, etc.
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Originally Posted by IndySam
But a red robot pushing a blue ball into a blue goal should get a penalty for possession.
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A single bump of the wrong color ball generally is not considered possession... what if it was just a single bump that happened to send it into the goal? I would doubt (in most cases, at least) that the red robot would actually be trying to score the blue ball for the blue alliance! I do agree, however, that a penalty is probably warranted - if the ball is re-entered into play for this scenario, then the alliance's cycle is interrupted/delayed. If it isn't, it's possible the alliance missed out on assist/high goal points for that cycle.
While I think it's clear in the rules that it shouldn't count as a goal, I would guess it's being counted as one most of the time, due to the general understanding of goal scoring (In soccer, basketball, or hockey it doesn't matter who causes the score - as soon as the game piece is in the net/goal, it's a score).