[Nate Bloom]

This thread has put a huge emphasis on the 8 second/24 second pedestal delay, but this isn't at the heart of the problem.

First, 2594 did not have any functional mechanisms during this match as discussed earlier in this thread (again, no hard feelings with them). Refs at Utah were not consistent with counting any sort of possession that did not involve a robot mechanism (such as pushing the ball), so chances are that the alliance could not get the third assist in their cycles that match.

More importantly, we were not given a ball while our ball was stuck in 2594. They held our ball for 43 seconds, during which we were never given another ball.

If an ALLIANCE’S BALL becomes stuck in an opposing ALLIANCE’S ROBOT, the Head Referee will signal an extended infraction of G12 (the assumption is that the ALLIANCE has already been penalized for the initial G12 infraction). At this point, the Head Referee will suspend the current CYCLE and re-illuminate the PEDESTAL, beginning another CYCLE for that ALLIANCE. If the stuck BALL is freed, that ball will be considered FIELD debris. [bold emphasis mine]

Looking at the video weatherdt posted, there were at least 30 seconds where the ball was clearly stuck in 2594 and we were not given another ball.

I don't think that the red alliance was wrong in asking for a re-play from their point of view, but I also don't think that there was enough reason for there to be a replay from the refs point of view.