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Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur
Oh, I agree. Nothing against 1241. It didn't look intentional at all.
But a 20 point foul caused a 50 point foul for the opponent. It will be discussed, even though I believe the refs got it right.
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The rules in question, by my viewing:
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Originally Posted by FRC 2014 Game Manual G24
A ROBOT’S horizontal dimensions may never exceed 20 in. beyond its FRAME PERIMETER (see illustration in Figure 3-6).
Violation: FOUL. If continuous or repeated violations, TECHNICAL FOUL.
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Originally Posted by FRC 2014 Game Manual G27 As Modified by 03-20-2014 TEAM UPDATE
Strategies aimed at and/or game play resulting in the damage, destruction or inhibition of opponent ROBOTS via actions such as high-speed or repeated, aggressive ramming, attachment, tipping, or entanglement of ROBOTS are not allowed.
Violation: FOUL. If strategic, TECHNICAL FOUL. Potential YELLOW CARD.
<BB>For example, use of a wedge-like MECHANISM to flip ROBOTS would be considered a violation of G27.
MECHANISMS outside the FRAME PERIMETER are particularly susceptible to causing such damage and drawing this penalty and/or penalties associated with violations of G28. Teams are encouraged to be cautious in their use of such appendages when engaging in ROBOT to ROBOT MATCH play.</BB>
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Originally Posted by FRC 2014 Game Manual G28 As Modified by 03-20-2014 TEAM UPDATE
Initiating deliberate or damaging contact with an opponent ROBOT on or inside the vertical extension of its FRAME PERIMETER is not allowed.
Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL
<BB>High speed accidental collisions may occur during the MATCH and are expected. Generally, ROBOTS extend elements outside of the FRAME PERIMETER at their own risk.
A ROBOT with an element outside its FRAME PERIMETER may be penalized under this rule if it appears they are using that element to purposefully contact another ROBOT inside its FRAME PERIMETER. Regardless of intent, a ROBOT with an element outside its FRAME PERIMETER that causes damage to another ROBOT inside of its FRAME PERIMETER will be penalized, unless the actions of the damaged ROBOT are the catalyst for the damage.</BB>
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We all agree that G14 is not invoked, as the actions were not deliberate.
G24 certainly should be called on 1114. Their antenna was >20" outside their FRAME PERIMETER for a continuous time. TECHNICAL FOUL.
G27 should be invoked by the "gameplay resulting in damage to opponent ROBOTs" clause. FOUL.
G28 should ALSO be invoked by "Initiating... damaging contact with an opponent ROBOT... inside the vertical extension of the FRAME PERIMETER". TECHNICAL FOUL.