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Originally Posted by Brandon_L
What isn't INSPIRING is when your students take extra care to make sure your robot will not break in regular match play, only to be later penalized because someone else didn't. You should build the best robot you possibly can, because it should give you the best chance at winning the competition. Upsets are great. I love them. I don't love them when its from a technicality of a poorly written rulebook. As a former mentor on 3929* whos alliance beat us on penalties in quarters, I had a student from 3929 apologize that they beat our alliance 'in such a troll game'. I don't blame them at all - they went on to do fantastic and win the event, and I am happy for them. I blame the laziness of the GDC in this game design.
*3929 wasn't even the robot involved in the incident
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You have at least 2 matches to beat the opposing alliance during eliminations.If you lost because of fouls in both of them, then it is highly unlikely that both of them resulted from "stupid rules". If they did, and you incurred the same "stupid rule" twice, then the old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" applies.
I understand where you're coming from. I felt pretty angry myself after the Newton Finals in 2012. The difference is, your alliance had to do something to get a foul. You either hit someone a little too hard, or dropped your intake down at the wrong time, but you had control over the situation. Drive a bit slower, be more careful with your intake, spend more time training your human player. These are all things that you can do to make the second (or third) match more successful.
My main problem with the complaints about the penalties is there was something you could do to not incur the foul. You see someone coming at you fast with a non-robust robot? Back up. Chances are the 5 additional seconds it'll take you to pick up the ball aren't going to change the outcome of the match. If it costs you the match because you can't get a last second truss shot off, then it's worth the risk to stay and get hit. If there's still a minute left to go, why risk incurring a 50 point tech foul?
What happened in Newton Finals 2012, we had absolutely no control over, there was no way to do anything about it. What so ever. However, not a single 68 student came on to the forums to complain. Or a member of our alliance. And that was us losing to events outside of our control. You can see why I'm against all the posts complaining about things that were within a teams control.