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Originally Posted by nathannfm
Someone broke 1114 in such a way that a part of their robot was extending more than 20 inches outside their frame perimeter. This got them a technical foul, the team that broke them only received a foul. That difference of 30 points decided the match and eliminated the 1114 alliance.
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To be fair, there is a little more detail than that. The other robot was 1241 who was in the act of picking up their own ball. 1114 attempted to defend them from doing so, and collided with them.
http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archives/89874438
Collision happens at 1:12 in the video. You should watch the 10 seconds prior to the collision for context.
The other side of the argument is that 1241 was given a 20pt penalty for just trying to pick up their own ball because 1114 happened to break due to the collision.
There is a YMTC discussion where people are invited to try and break down a similar situation, and provide analysis of how penalties (if any) should be assessed:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=128131
In particular, after reading the scenarios that Brandon_L had to deal with this season, I'd love to see his analysis of the YMTC above.
Another notable thing about the match is the amazing blue 3-assist low-goal bounce-out that happens at the end of the match (around 2:25 in the above video), which would have sealed the victory for blue - penalties or not.
It's relevant because I think there's an impression that this was supposed to be a one-sided match that easily should have been won by 1114's alliance, when in actuality, the match itself (minus penalties) was extremely close and could have gone either way. This would be surprising to a lot of people who don't know just how good 3683 and 1241 are.
Back on topic, I wish the rules could have dealt with these types of situation in a cleaner, more straightforward fashion, but I'm willing to give the GDC some slack here, because I don't have a good handle yet what those changes should be!