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Originally Posted by ScourgeDragon
I'm sure there may be others, but one culprit of video grabbing without permission is WatchFirstNow. You can see the conversation heat up halfway down the first page when team 1676 realizes all their match videos were ripped from their youtube and re-uploaded to WFN's private vimeo account: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=127932 |
And later on, when FiM realized they're doing the same thing
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Originally Posted by Lucario
It can be reasonably argued that this work is for educational purposes (as it educates the public) and the website, seeing that it is devoid of advertisements, seems to be of a non-profit nature.
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If it was devoid of advertisements, this might be true. But it's not. They're running advertisements for a Canadian hosting company at the bottom of every archive page. The other issue people have is that there is absolutely no attribution to the original source, and no one was contacted to see if it was okay to rip their videos and re-upload them privately to another video hosting website.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik
Not that it makes things right or anything, but an offended party that has had its video ripped and uploaded to a different video sharing site can always file a DMCA takedown with said video sharing site.
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Or we can avoid a third party and settle the issue like adults. The administrator of the site has been contacted by several people about this issue, and this issue has been brought up publicly several times now.
This issue is pretty black and white. There should be no need for discussion about fair use or whether the videos are for "educational use". WFN is ripping other people's videos from websites, re-uploading them, displaying them as their own content, and serving ads on them. It's pretty safe to say no one is okay with this.
As
Chris said (and as I pointed out in a private message to Adam - which like
Hallry's email never got a response), the logic that there's "no source of income from the ad" doesn't mean they're not ads. Likewise, the logic behind planning to attribute people, but in the meantime not removing the videos or contacting the original owners and making sure it's alright if they re-upload the videos is flawed.
A quick solution for this would be for WFN to do the right thing, and just link to the YouTube videos on their website, like The Blue Alliance does. To Adam: If
you need a programmer to replace the ripped videos with the proper embedded YouTube links, I'm sure we can work out a deal