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Re: Missed Inbounder Assists

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Originally Posted by Adam Freeman View Post
**Disclaimer** Not trying to call anyone out...just trying to understand.

While reviewing our match footage from the Waterford District F3 match, I noticed that one of our balls was only credited for (1) assist, even though it was passed out of 4994 in the red zone to 51, who had a possesion all three zones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...pDfBkQ#t=12 2

We specifically worked with 4994 to modify their robot to be able to pass the ball quickly out of their machine via their roller intake. Ball ball went in and out of their robot very quickly, but it was actively ejected from the robot by the intake spinning.

In the end, it's a moot point since we lost 130-95, so regardless of the additional assist it would not have changed the outcome of the match. But, I know that the fact that the lights were only showing (1) assist effected our strategy of where 51 scored that ball (low goal v. high goal). At the time the score was very close, and the difference could have been scoring in the low goal and starting another cycle v. trying to continue to score in the high goal.

It might be hard to tell in the video, since there are robots blocking the inbound but I can assure you the ball passed through 4994's robot. Is there a specific amount of time refs are looking for before a ball is ejected? Do we need to review our strategy with the appropriate refs so they know what to look for when we are trying to get a third assist with this type of machine?

I was told this was not the only time we were not credited for this assist in the elims. Although, this is the only video example I could find. Possible it was just an honest mistake by the refs.

I'd like to utilize this strategy in future competitions, and I want to make sure we are doing it correctly, to maximize our score.
At livonia we had 2 matches in elims where the ref had missed 3 assists from 3 different cycles. They do have a lot to do but after it was brought to their attention the first time we thought it would be settled...they got it right the 3rd time though which is better than nothing. We have learned that sometimes you have to make these assists more clear than what we might think is a clear assist at the time in the match.
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