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We have had great success with our el torro intake system. We are using 20:1 versa planetary with a bag motor. I think 70:1 will be too slow. Our prototype system was direct drive CIM motors and they picked up great. The reason we went to planetary was to be able to manipulate the ball. With direct drive the weight of the ball would cause the CIMs to back drive if we tried to just hold the ball instead of completely bring the ball into our robot. I don't have exact measurements right now, but I believe the length of our el toros are 17" wrapped in hockey tape and then wrapped with 1/4 surgical tubing. We also have a length of surgical tubing across the top connecting the el toros. I believe the spacing between our el toros at the top is around 22".