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Re: [FTC]: New De-Scoring penalty interpretation

The full text of the rules in question for anyone wondering:

Quote:
<G11> The actions of an Alliance or their Robots shall not cause an opposing Alliance or Robot to break a rule and thus
incur penalties. Any rule violations committed by the affected Alliance shall be excused, and no penalties will be
assigned.
Quote:
<GS3>Robots may not Score or de-Score Blocks in the opposing Alliance’s Pendulum Goals during the End Game.
Violations will result in a Major Penalty and the Opposing Alliance will be awarded with a Balance Score.
Quote:
<GS4> Robots may not de-Score Blocks from the Pendulum Goals, however they may be de-Scored from the Floor
Scoring Area. If Blocks are de-Scored illegally, the offending Alliance will incur a Major Penalty. In other words,
once a Block is Scored in a Pendulum Goal, it may not be removed by any Robot, even one of the same
Alliance’s color. De-scored Blocks will not contribute to an Alliance Score.
If the ref thought your alliance partner rammed the other robot into the pendulum, then I think it's reasonable to say that they caused the block to be de-scored. They just used the opponent's robot to do it.

I think it's not about the penalty being "transferred" to you, it's that you incurred the penalty via the other robot.

Imagine if a robot with a very powerful drivetrain rammed you into a field element, and damaged it. Should you be penalized for the field damage, or should they?

You are correct though, the rule doesn't directly cover this specific case.
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