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Originally Posted by AnonymousMarvin
Just a few comments. I have as well worn the stripes of a referee in other sports and know from first hand that the referees are not going to get every call right every time. And the expectation that the referees should know all the rules is preposterous. No matter how much training you get, no matter how many test you have to take your not going to remember all the rules. To 1410 not to de debbie downer but I do believe you were on the other end of things in Colorado, during semi finals. Specifically refereeing to match SF 2-2. The foul that was called on the other alliance was possession of the other alliances ball, when 4153 accidentally lowered their collector the wrong direction into 2996's robot. Not only was this a questionable call, but the foul was assessed as a technical foul, when the rule was changed to a regular foul, and that would have changed the outcome of the match. Not to take away what you guys did at colorado, you guys performed well, just some thoughts.
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Not to say you're wrong on your assessment, but here is G12
G12
An ALLIANCE may not POSSESS their opponent’s BALLS. The following criteria define POSSESSION :
“carrying” (moving while supporting BALLS in or on the ROBOT or holding the BALL in or on the ROBOT),
“herding” (repeated pushing or bumping),
“launching” (impelling BALLS to a desired location or direction via a MECHANISM in motion relative to the ROBOT), or
“trapping” (overt isolation or holding one or more BALLS against a FIELD element or ROBOT in an attempt to shield them).
Violation: FOUL, if unintentional and inconsequential (i.e. does not significantly impact MATCH play).
TECHNICAL FOUL per consequential instance. TECHNICAL FOUL per extended instance. If strategic, RED CARD for the ALLIANCE.
It appeared to be on purpose. They lowered their arm on us. It was not a flimsy arm either. So it had to be done by a driver. I was there watching behind the Plexiglas.
It is not our fault they "lowered their collector the wrong direction"
By the rule, it affected match play because it unseated the ball from our shooter, mind you that reaching in our robot is the only way to do that. That is mainly why it was called as a technical foul I would assume.